RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 2:08 pm
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2014 at 2:17 pm by Drich.)
(January 10, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:Actually it's not. Henry position is extra biblical/not found in the bible. Mine is. If the bible means nothing and one is not in service of the God of the bible then I can see how you would assume that one position is no more valid than another. However if Henry was in service to the God of the bible as he claims, then his works countermanded what scripture tells us Service to God includes. This invalidates Henry's efforts as being of or for The God of the bible.(January 10, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Drich Wrote: The point I was making and you all seem all too eager to verify is that by accepting fictional accounts of things like witchcraft and sorcery, you have turn a blind eye to how it truly manifest itself.Except drich that any practicing ritual magician that is following the practice of henry Agrippa ( basically any that is not levayan or wiccan) will tell that there power comes from god and his officers, the highest ritual being the tetra gromesh which is a ritual to summon god to take orders from god directly.
Sorcery is not about harry potter magic, it is about using things like herbs and chants to get a desired result, from something as small as getting rid of a head ache or giving someone a head ache to killing them or healing them. Sorcery is about seeking means of changing one's situation outside of God. It is seeking to by pass God in hopes to control or manage one's own life, through other 'powers.'
And their position is just as well evidenced as yours.
(January 10, 2014 at 1:02 pm)StoryBook Wrote:(January 10, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Drich Wrote: The point I was making and you all seem all too eager to verify is that by accepting fictional accounts of things like witchcraft and sorcery, you have turn a blind eye to how it truly manifest itself.??? So you have never used pain or cold medications? Never went to a doctor? Shouldn't use tooth paste because it is altering the health of your teeth.
Sorcery is not about harry potter magic, it is about using things like herbs and chants to get a desired result, from something as small as getting rid of a head ache or giving someone a head ache to killing them or healing them. Sorcery is about seeking means of changing one's situation outside of God. It is seeking to by pass God in hopes to control or manage one's own life, through other 'powers.'
This is a Strawman arguement, your rebuttal does not repersent my position.
I said that Chants, and 'drugs' and the like were used as a means to bypass God, and appeal to spirits/demons.. Using drugs is not an automatic appeal to demons/spirits for help.
(January 10, 2014 at 1:00 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: For what reasons?For the reason stated, we started out as buddhists. we used Insence to clear 'evil spirits' with good ones.
(January 10, 2014 at 1:07 pm)Faith No More Wrote:Incense in of itself is meaningless, it is the reason incense is used that can make it sorcery.(January 10, 2014 at 12:53 pm)Drich Wrote: absolutly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_use_of_incense
We use to do this in our house, for these reasons.
Are you saying burning incense is sorcery and you do that?
My mother's parents use to burn incense yes. As the grew up and lived as practicing buddhists.
(January 10, 2014 at 1:08 pm)StoryBook Wrote: Isn't this what Christian/Catholics do?Yes
Quote:Isn't this what god does?there is not one command nor Nt example for the Christian. no.