RE: Demons?
January 15, 2014 at 8:06 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2014 at 8:09 pm by Angrboda.)
(January 15, 2014 at 4:28 pm)Avodaiah Wrote: I never claim to know God's intentions. In fact, by calling God a "vindictive asshole" and morally inferior to "today's children of five", it is you who are presuming God's intentions. You're saying that God is in the wrong, but you give no other reason than that God's actions do not make sense to you. But why would they? He's God, and we're not.
Those were conditional statements, so no, I wasn't judging. I said 'if' God's reasons were the same as those given to Job, which you repeat almost verbatim by saying "He's god and you're not," then yes we can judge them, because those aren't valid reasons for explaining why God did what he did to Job. That's equivalent to me shooting your dog, and when you ask why, I reply "because I can." If God's answer is only "because I'm God," then I don't need to know more to judge him. If he has other reasons than this, you haven't presented them. Matter of fact, you are claiming to know God's reasons by implying they are beyond my comprehension. How would you know this? You wouldn't. Perhaps God's real reason for the genocide of the flood was, "I was pissed at an angel, and needed to take it out on someone." You can't have it both ways. Either you don't know God's meanings, in which case you can't say they are beyond my comprehension, because you don't know; or you claim to know God's intentions well enough to imply that they are beyond my comprehension. You would at least need to know something about God's thinking just to make either statement. So no, your dodge doesn't work because it's essentially a lie; if you truly don't understand the intentions of your God, then you're in no position to say they aren't comprehensible because you just don't know.
You're trying to play both sides of the "knowing God's intentions" quandary at the same time, and it doesn't work. Either you don't know, and must be silent. Or you do know, which makes your claim that you don't pretend to know God's intention a lie. You didn't keep silent, so that makes you a liar.
You don't get to play God's lawyer and then claim you know nothing about the details of the case.
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