(March 2, 2010 at 1:41 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: I simply listed a small litany of reasons to accept the existence of Australia. These examples are testable and repeatable. You can poke holes in any single example, it's the sum of the evidence that makes the case.So if you can poke holes in every single example, then why should I believe that China exists? I'v enever been there. Hell, perhaps somewhere down the line it was deemed beneficial to create an entirely false place and falsify evidence for such a place. So with that in mind, I believe that the person you called is really a government agent meant to trick me. The map you showed is just something made up, and you've been force-fed the idea that that place, and all those around it exist since birth.
You just can't accept that there are chinatheists, can you?

Quote:Sure but they don't stand up to the rigors of the scientific method.Nothing is credibile without having experienced it. Still then, no experience is credible without faith.
Here's one example: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html
Quote:Sure. e_e This amounts to the same kind of argument where people say if you look for god and don't find him that you didn't look hard enough. Blame the person, not the deity who is supposed to be sooo powerful and benevolent that he'd want you to know about him so you can go to the big orgasm in the sky.
Knowing about Him does not equate to going to the 'big orgasm in the sky.' (Btw, what are your thoughts on Heaven? From the sound of it, not exactly correct.) And yes, blame the person, because there are many truths in this world which are held to be self-evident. As I keep saying, love is self-evident, and then understanding the nature of love can help to understand what transcendance means, and so on and so forth...