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Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH
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RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH
(January 16, 2014 at 3:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Suck your mark in first. Stick with the love and heaven and good morals and fabulous miracles. It's just stupid to bring up hell if you haven't convinced them of the other stuff first. Don't tell them about the horrendous torture in store for them if they try to leave the Family...er, backslide from adoring and worshiping Jesus, until it's too late for them to back out. It's just common sense.

This won't work. For one, love and good morals can and do happen without Christianity, oftentimes despite Christianity. Second, trying to "suck [one's] mark" in by mentioning heaven and fabulous miracles will often do more harm than good to your agenda with an atheist. All that does is end any rational debate.

Also, you make a pretty raunchy assumption that the starting point for anyone's spiritual journey is a wonderful relationship with Jesus. It's not.
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Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Jacob(smooth) - January 15, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Jacob(smooth) - January 15, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Minimalist - January 15, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 2:41 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Lemonvariable72 - January 15, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by SteelCurtain - January 15, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Ryantology - January 15, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by LastPoet - January 15, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Crossless1 - January 15, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by SteelCurtain - January 15, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Jackalope - January 15, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by ShaMan - January 15, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Bad Wolf - January 15, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Crossless1 - January 15, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by LostLocke - January 15, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Nine - January 15, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Boggart - January 15, 2014 at 2:01 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Bad Wolf - January 15, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Minimalist - January 15, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Lemonvariable72 - January 15, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Angrboda - January 15, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Angrboda - January 15, 2014 at 3:35 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Minimalist - January 15, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Lemonvariable72 - January 15, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Crossless1 - January 15, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by zebo-the-fat - January 15, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by pocaracas - January 15, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by barrat77 - January 15, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by KUSA - January 15, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Mr Greene - January 15, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Nine - January 15, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by pocaracas - January 15, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Psykhronic - January 15, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Angrboda - January 15, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Avodaiah - January 15, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 15, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Esquilax - January 15, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by The Valkyrie - January 16, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Simon Moon - January 16, 2014 at 5:16 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Esquilax - January 16, 2014 at 2:02 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Darkstar - January 16, 2014 at 2:09 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Jackalope - January 16, 2014 at 2:04 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by KichigaiNeko - January 16, 2014 at 4:05 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Ryantology - January 16, 2014 at 8:41 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Mister Agenda - January 16, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by SteelCurtain - January 16, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by The Valkyrie - January 16, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Simon Moon - January 16, 2014 at 4:25 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by xr34p3rx - January 16, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Minimalist - January 16, 2014 at 2:13 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by pocaracas - January 16, 2014 at 3:49 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 16, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Kayenneh - January 16, 2014 at 8:37 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Crossless1 - January 16, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 16, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Bad Wolf - January 16, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 16, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by The Valkyrie - January 16, 2014 at 6:20 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Bad Wolf - January 16, 2014 at 6:20 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by xr34p3rx - January 16, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Jackalope - January 16, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by xr34p3rx - January 16, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by The Valkyrie - January 16, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Chad32 - January 16, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Jackalope - January 16, 2014 at 6:46 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Bad Wolf - January 16, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by xr34p3rx - January 16, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by The Valkyrie - January 16, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Bad Wolf - January 16, 2014 at 6:52 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by The Valkyrie - January 16, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Bad Wolf - January 16, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Chad32 - January 16, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Avodaiah - January 16, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Thackerie - January 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by zebo-the-fat - January 17, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Simon Moon - January 16, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by pocaracas - January 16, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Wunsbee - January 17, 2014 at 12:17 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by KichigaiNeko - January 17, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Mr Greene - January 17, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Mister Agenda - January 17, 2014 at 12:22 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Minimalist - January 16, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Chad32 - January 16, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by xr34p3rx - January 16, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Chad32 - January 16, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Jackalope - January 16, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Minimalist - January 16, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Chad32 - January 16, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by xr34p3rx - January 16, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by The Valkyrie - January 16, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Lemonvariable72 - January 16, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Chad32 - January 16, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by xr34p3rx - January 16, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by ShaMan - January 16, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Minimalist - January 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: Forced to see a Minister.... UGHHH - by Bad Writer - January 19, 2014 at 1:04 pm

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