RE: Argument from Absoluteness
January 22, 2014 at 8:18 am
(This post was last modified: January 22, 2014 at 8:18 am by bennyboy.)
(January 21, 2014 at 10:48 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote:(January 21, 2014 at 12:03 am)bennyboy Wrote: Right. If, from God's point of view, time is like an extra physical dimension, along which objects are oriented, then God is timeless and absolute, and absolutely unable to change or to judge anything.
The Christian mess is in trying to reconcile an unchanging God with the capacity to have emotions and to take actions.
Well, the problem is that Christian apologists will rarely, if ever, accept this view of time which is called th B-theory. Accepting the B-theory (which is supported by the usual interpretation of Relativity) entails that there is no priviledged frame of reference. Now, apologists can't have that, because among other things it means that the universe can't have, even in principle, begun its existence, because on this view there is no "temporal-becoming", to use the retarded jargon.
I think you'd need another dimension, call it "meta-space-time" or whatever, in which an entire universe, including its 4-dimensional framework, could be created, positioned, etc. But then God would just be whoever made THAT framework, and it's either philosophical theosophical nonsense or a more direct "Whoah, dude, circles in circles in circles. Pass that here!"
