GOOD Apologetics?

[Drich]

I think the best arguement for the Existance of God is the existance of God, and you ablity to interact with him if you approach him as He has instructed in Luke 11. Pretty hard to argue with God on his existance. Maybe that is why you all choose to argue with us, and not A/S/K for him yourselves.

Translation: The best evidence for the existence of God is the secret friend you are taught to channel as a child growing up in a biblical family. The claim that the bible bears any relationship to what one experiences intra-psychically remains just that, a claim. Of course to seal the deal the people all around you will grow apoplectic if you dare challenge something so .. 'obvious'. Any concern with evidence is just an indication of how little you love God in a Christian home. People will love you if you just play along.

from birth to 20 years old I doubt if I saw the insides of a church more than a few dozen times.

My mom found Jesus when I was young, (appearently he was hiding in a Korean church that did not speak any English, except for the English class they taught.) I went to that one for a while, but wound up playing outside till lunch was served. (I was too white looking to play with the other kids.) so in fairly short order I just stopped going all together. Then my dad found Jesus while I was in middle school this was for about a year. This time I was a little too not white looking to play with the other kids.. Shortly there after they had a sermon he didnot like and he quit going to that church/any church. The pastor of that church lived close to us so he took us for a while till I started asking questions like if we die and out bodies turn back to dust then what does it matter if hell is fire? Can ghosts feel fire? He gave an answer, and I asked another, and another and another, till he stopped picking us up.

My experience with Christianity was to say the least was not a good one. Which by the time I finished high school I wanted to spit in God's eye. I still held to my theory that hell was nothing to fear, and if given the chance in this life or the next I would hock one in the eye of Jesus God or whom ever. It even got to the point where I challenged or dared God or anything else out there to do show me something, otherwise piss off. Then shortly there after I got to experience what the all the fuss of hell was about.

But that is not what stuck. It was the briefest of moments that I experienced The love God was offering. It was complete. I know that word does not describe much but it was everything I knew I wanted or was built for. Then in an instant I was being consumed by 'fire' which was not fire. I found out fire only describes the emotional state one is in when being consumed by the pit. It is a far greater experience to be consumed by 'hell fire' than fire but the emotional reaction is the same. You want it off you. Every nerve ending lights up and panic like you've never known sets in and consumes you. Truthfully, the small measure of sanity that allows us the gift of individuality, can't last long in that place...

As bad as all that was God's love left a far deeper imprint on me than the hell fire experience.

You are right and the vast majority believe because their families believe. If that is all they are given over to then that is all that is required from them. For those of you like me who need to know why, God offers answers. You just got to be willing to stick it out and keep asking.

Your atheism is apart of that process. I believe that christianity as a religion can help a certain person or even larger groups of people find God. But for the rest of us God needs to guide us in Himself. And apart of that is clearing the slate of the empty religious practices and doctrines. Which again brings you back to your disbelief. Some of you are content here. While others are not. Those who are content do not need to challenge or seek input/ask questions about something they do not believe in. Which means every single one of you on one level or another still wants to know about God for sure.

Understand it is with everything I got that I say there is nothing special about me. God did not offer me anything that he has not offered any of you. If you really want to know then ask God to show you with everything you've got and keep asking hell or high water till He shows you.

But, understand going I to this He expects that you be faithful to what you have been given. If not the faith he gave you will be taken from you and given to someone else.