RE: Responding to the Challenge
December 13, 2008 at 1:50 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2008 at 2:05 pm by Daystar.)
(December 11, 2008 at 6:03 pm)LukeMC Wrote: If we skipped the praying and just searched for knowledge off our own backs, would we not draw the same conclusions?
Knowledge off your own backs? Knowledge regarding what? General knowledge? Knowledge of God? What does John 17:3 say regarding the latter?
(December 11, 2008 at 7:13 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(December 11, 2008 at 6:03 pm)LukeMC Wrote: If we skipped the praying and just searched for knowledge off our own backs, would we not draw the same conclusions?No, we'd come to better conclusions. Such are the ways of science.
[laughs] I think maybe we all find the answers we want. You are young.
(December 11, 2008 at 7:18 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:(December 11, 2008 at 11:58 am)Daystar Wrote: If it is a joke and you don't really want to believe the truth, no matter what the truth is, then you will get what you deserve. What really you are asking for.This means you claim you can recognize absolute truth. What are your criteria?
No, this means that you can't recognize absolute truth because you are limited by your criteria.
(December 11, 2008 at 7:42 pm)Ace Wrote: I think I'll skip the praying part thank you....
As you wish.
(December 11, 2008 at 7:42 pm)Ace Wrote: Also -Quote:if he is real and true to reveal himself to you through your own personal study
What the hell does that mean? "True to himself to you through your own personal study"? Sorry but as a person of science, I do not understand this. It sounds a little....odd and anti-scientific.
It isn't about science. He will reveal himself to be true to you through your own personal study if you really are interested in finding the answer. If to you God is a joke then what would be the point in him revealing himself to you.
What we were talking about is Atheists having prayed and found no response.
When I was an Atheist and I began to study the Bible in order to debunk it I prayed a sincere prayer to Jehovah God to do a specific thing if he was true. A thing that wouldn't happen otherwise of its own accord. He did that thing while I prayed. Actually I prayed the night before and was praying again that morning and he made the thing happen.
(December 11, 2008 at 7:42 pm)Ace Wrote: What do you mean by this? Am I to day-dream with my hands collapsed in prayer and interprete my thoughts as words from a non-existent being?
I couldn't do that.
Nor could I.
