So I got in trouble

[Drich]

So if they believe as you do, they get everlasting life with you.

In the quote you highlighted I did not make this statement. i paraphrased John 3:16. that has nothing to do with my personal beliefs. It is a promise of Christ.

Oh that is unless they're true christians, not just sincere ones, and unless you don't want to mix with them. Because you totally won't be in heaven with murderers, nope.


And yet the bible says that all that believe in Christ as gods son shall not perish but have eternal life.

Christ also said this in mat 7:
What People Do Shows What They Are
15 “Be careful of false prophets. They come to you and look gentle like sheep. But they are really dangerous like wolves. 16 You will know these people because of what they do. Good things don’t come from people who are bad, just as grapes don’t come from thornbushes, and figs don’t come from thorny weeds. 17 In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, and bad trees produce bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 You will know these false people by what they do.[a]

21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants. 22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’ 23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’

It appears that 'belief' as per Jesus' understanding of it requires more than a simple acknoweledgement.

Also Ridicule is your forte, here's one example of many, many many..


Your numerous requests of how church was for KSA last sunday are obviously nawt in good faith because you accompany them with ridicule as seen above.

Denegration of others/Plain out rudeness in the midst of someone genuinely trying to speak to you

par example:

KSA Made a Commitment, that if I could provide Him Book chapter and Verse that show Christ claiming to be God, he would start going to church.

I kept my end of the deal and even broke the message down to each of the core elements and examined all of it with him.

My asking him about church was well within ear shot of him calling me a liar, stupid, or some attempt to dismiss what i had to say.

and then there's this..

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FUNNY:



MAKING FUN OF

Definition: to make fun of somebody/something also poke fun at somebody/something
to make a joke about someone or something in an unkind way

"To those without the Law I became one who was out the law (but not really because i still served and yielded to Christ.)"

http://atheistforums.org/thread-22249-po...#pid555344

Sorry alpo, If your civility and intergrity can be given away so cheaply i don't want it. Maybe you should take a break from all of this for a while, gather up yourself respect, and put it all back together. I'll be here when you get back.

I wonder why you did not post what she said that Inspired that quote. My words here were not mean as an insult, but a well restrained attempt to try and get (Apophenia at the time) to take a breath. I had appearently provoked her to much anger and wrath. Normally I relish in the idea that I have taken one of you to the point where you can not discuss the subject matter topically. Not because I like the arguement, but because I know your ablity to reason is at an end, and your looking to red herring your way out of a corner you have painted yourself into.

This was not the case here. This was a case that I provoked someone to such a state of wrath, they were willing to say anything to try and hurt or lash out. Not my goal. I don't mind chaos, so long is there is a point or direction. Apophenia lost all control and direction, and I dont want to be the source of that.

Meaning: là bạn điên is the word for butthole or turd...
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(Someone tell him i am making fun of his screen name, before he asks another stupid question.)

I'm sorry but that's funny i don't care who you are that is funny right there. It's got everything, farts, poop, buttholes and making someone look stupid for asking a poop, fart, butthole/God question.

Self admittedly being rough on people because of some conspiratorically conceived notions that you have despite being told otherwise at every turn, then turning around and doing it again.

What are you talking about? Each and every example you made was taken from before I made a vow not to nickname you people.

Don't all your conspiracy theories get tiring for that brain of yours?

You do know what a conspiracy is don't you? It is where two or more people plot to do something harmful or illeagal.

That has nothing to do with the quote you left that I made about me being hard on brakeman (for catching him lying or expastor for what i suspected to be lying as well.)
Brakeman went of CF.com and said he was a 14 year old boy and was so smart/christians were so stupid that at 14 he could dismantle any and all arguements about this religion. Then he came here opened an account just to brag about it. That is not a conspiricy theory. That is a liar being caught in the act.

Same with xpastor. I gave the reasons and examples that made me think he was lying as well.

again not a conspiracy theory as he acted alone.

Why do you love it, so? Could it be that you enjoy trouncing on us non-believers because you *shocked voice like it?

The irony. You all claim to only speak where the evidence leads, and 90% of what you believe is based on faith. then I get to point that out which destroys the idea that your's is an evidence based belief system which underminds everything you believe. Which makes my job much easier.

You do know in this soceity selling people is not legal. That said, if we live in the slavery soceity I would say make an

offer.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-22220-po...#pid549766

Not a hard choice to make. God set up a soceity that allowed for slavery, and condemned homosexuality. Therefore slavery is

not as bad as homosexuality. The fact that soceity says that your intolerance should be reversed only speaks to declining

'morality' in soceity.

Whether that makes me a slave, slave owner or none of the above if we were forced to pick one of the two societies I will

pick slavery.

Slavery is not intrinsically bad. It is what man does with slavery that makes it evil..


It depends on what they did.

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There is a series of beating that are allowed before death is mandatory. If the beatings are done right then death can be

averted in most cases. :dead horse:

So?

I did not say sincerity was not apart of the equasion. i said sincerity was not the key. the key is knocking. Yes one has to

be sincere, but in the story what gets the man in bed up and willing to give the neighbor what he wants? It was the man's

persistant knocking. Something no one i have spoken with has done.

One has to be willing to knock until he gets what he/she is seeking. Every one of you who says he has A/S/K has put a time

limit on their efforts. I have been intentionally A/S/K'ing for 20 years and I still knock for more. Most of you

believe growing up in the church and doing church stuff is the same thing, so when you do honestly ask or seek for a week or

two and get nothing you believe there is no God.


What if your unbelief was apart of the answer to your prayer? In that God has to wipe away all of the religious non biblical

crap we clutter our hearts with and then rebuild solid biblically based theology in us so we can see hear and interact with

Him.. But the thing is, inorder to get from religious christianity to biblical Christianity one must see how religious

christianity fails, and it is only through knocking that we can build the structure that we need to get to God. Because

knocking will take that sincere heart and deliver it to the stablity needed to hear and work with the holy Spirit.

But when you Ask and seek but do not knock you only get 1/2 of the prayer answered. Your false understanding of God is taken

away but you do not rebuild

So again the Key to A/S/K is the knocking not one's sincerity



If your goal is to complete a 1000 peice puzzle and you work on it for 3 days, but do not finish, is the puzzle picture

complete? "Do you see a problem with that?" Of course not, why? because you did not finish the puzzle no matter how many

days you worked on it. what will it take to finish the picture? is there a certain amount of time all should be complete?

no, it takes what it takes. some may get the picture sooner than others, but in the end if you quit before the puzzle is

complete then your picture will be incomplete no matter how much time you worked on it.

Like wise how many day can one put on building a bridge between themselves and God? If you do not finish this bridge will

you be able to cross it? no. When can one cross a bridge? When the gap is completely span. How long will this take? How big

is the gap between you and God? The larger the gap the longer this process will take. So who can say he has spent enough

time on their 'bridge' if the bridge is not complete?


That is not what I said. Because I know the medthod in which God answers A/S/K, is not by giving us what we expect.

<<<luckie wrote [oh no? I thought you based your whole unwaivering belief upon what god's given you and shown you, that you know what to expect in the future, and even said all your prayers are "ALWAYS" answered (even praying we get cancer or aids)]>>>


Why? Because we ALL have a bad understanding of God, and if God were to give us what we are looking for in the way we are

looking for it, it would only reinforce our misunderstanding of God. God does not want us to have this dark ages

understanding of Him.

All of it seems a bit rich for me, sorry.

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