RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 1, 2014 at 2:58 pm
(February 1, 2014 at 1:58 pm)snowtracks Wrote: ...no human being has ever witness an effect without a cause.This is true. But what else is required in the causal chain?
1) Cause
2) entity being acted upon
3) effect
I assume you are happy with God being the first one, and you are arguing that The Universe is the third, but you are missing a very important variable in what constitutes a complete causal chain. That middle entity upon which causal power is exerted to bring about its effect.
No human has ever witnessed things "coming into being from absolute nothingness" either. In fact, there's no clear way to approach "nothingness" as a coherent concept. Zero is right there next to infinity. All instances of things that come into existence, do so from the existence of prior effects.
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All causality that humans witness follows this 3 part causal chain. You insisted that the first part be upheld in this discussion, and so you must adhere to the others as well if we are to take you seriously at all. At this point, you are forced to revise your position, reject Christianity and have been logically reduced to only 2 options.
1) God acted upon himself
2) God acted upon a separate and pre-existing entity
Christianity can not survive the implications of either of the above conclusions, and given your statement above, you cannot avoid them without special pleading, and relinquishing all credibility as a person of rational thought. So, which is it?
