RE: Is Satan shown lying in the bible?
February 3, 2014 at 11:03 am
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2014 at 11:09 am by Drich.)
(February 2, 2014 at 2:14 pm)là bạn điên Wrote: He tempts Christ into making stones to releive his hunger. Are you saying that Christ could NOT do such a thing?No. Christ was sent into the desert to Fast 40 days by the Father. He was not authorized to eat at the point Satan said he could. God said no satan said He could. That my friend is a lie.
Quote:How is that a lie. Since Christ did no such thing then how do you know what would happen?Satan Said He could do this, Jesus point out scripture that said He should not. satan said he could when in fact he couldn't. that my friend is a lie.
Quote:That if Christ bow down to him he would be allowed to rule the world.
Quote:Again how is that a lie?If Christ bowed to satan that would mean Satan owned Christ. Christ would not rule anything as He himself was being ruled by Satan. Again that my friend is a lie.
(February 2, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(February 2, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Drich Wrote: That if you eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge you will not die. She did and she died. Once at the evolution of the garden and again at the end of her life.
With Christ in his temptations he misrepresented Christ's authority to make bread out of stones durning his 40 day fast, he told Christ if he cast himself off the temple angels would catch him. That if Christ bow down to him he would be allowed to rule the world.
Yes Christ could have made bread, but in doing so satan would have lead Christ in exceeding his fathers will.
In the second one satan was speaking for God. The problem satan did not know what God the Father would do.
The bowing down would meant satan would be in control of Christ and even if he turn the world over to Him satan would still be In control.
Yahweh said they would die that day, and they didn't. They lived much longer than anyone is really even capable of living, if they meant the same kind of years we mean. If he just reckons time different, then I guess the joke's on him.
I doubt he'd be in control of Jesus any more than he's in control of anyone. Besides, who would really want to follow Yahweh? He's a despicable person. Not saying the devil is without fault, but he can't be much worse.
Actually they did die.
When Adam was created He was given Life or in the Hebrew Chay. After the Fall the 930 years He lived was know as Chayay This means 'Restored life.'
We know Adam was imortal as per God's command to "eat of anytree in the Garden except for the tree of knoweledge for the day you eat of it you shall surly die.." This included the tree of life which made one immortal.
After Adam and Eve were cast out they lived a restored life. Why would their lived need be restored if they had not lost them per the promis of God.