I'm a member of one. I gave up after a while as you just get the same stupid arguments and no one gets anywhere.
You have to accept rational discussion will not change their minds. Rationality isn't what got them there in the first place, so it's not going to have any effect now.
You have to accept rational discussion will not change their minds. Rationality isn't what got them there in the first place, so it's not going to have any effect now.