Christian Forums

[Jenny A]

I've read in a couple of threads recently that there are Christian forums in which atheist points of view including attempts to show why atheism is a more logical and likely truthful position than Christianity are allowed.  And I do mean the right to open threads that mirror the kind of extended attempts to prove god or a particular religion correct that are allowed here.  I'd like some links if anyone has them.  

I won't be surprised if there aren't such forums.  Religious forums appear to exist to support not question faith so it's not surprising extended questioning is frowned upon.  

Googling has so far lead me only to forums with rules like this:

CCF does not exist to support or to enable general attacks on the Faith, or non-Catholic proselytizing. Extended non-Catholic lectures, and lists of disputed doctrines too lengthy to reasonably address at one time, are disallowed. Links to non-Catholic sites that include such lectures or lists are similarly disallowed. Moderator discretion will determine whether a given post or site is appropriate.

http://www.catholicforum.com/forums/faq....q_aup_faq_

Questioning Church teachings or disciplines is certainly not a problem, providing it is within a context of attempting to understand our faith.

http://www.catholicforum.com/forums/show...-Teachings

Christian?  Any suggestions?

[Whateverist]

That is all I've found, ones which won't let you broach the subject. Except for WLC's site. But the rudeness of the reaction as well as the absurdity of what they say just wears you down. Makes me more sensitive to how our own theists are doing, especially the more reasonable among them.

[Jenny A]

That is all I've found, ones which won't let you broach the subject.  Except for WLC's site.  But the rudeness of the reaction as well as the absurdity of what they say just wears you down.  Makes me more sensitive to how our own theists are doing, especially the more reasonable among them.

That's kinda what I expected.  I already wince a little sometime at how we treat some Christians here.  But at the same time the ones who do get shoved hard here also tend to be the most relentlessly deaf to what people here actually think as opposed to what they thought we thought before they arrived.

[Whateverist]

That is all I've found, ones which won't let you broach the subject.  Except for WLC's site.  But the rudeness of the reaction as well as the absurdity of what they say just wears you down.  Makes me more sensitive to how our own theists are doing, especially the more reasonable among them.

That's kinda what I expected.  I already wince a little sometime at how we treat some Christians here.  But at the same time the ones who do get shoved hard here also tend to be the most relentlessly deaf to what people here actually think as opposed to what they thought we thought before they arrived.

Sometimes it is even what they think we ought to think.  Nothing like coaching the person you disagree with to formulate the worse positions possible in order to help you win your point.

[Metis]

Suscipe Domine allows atheists to talk, but usually only so the peanut gallery can stop ripping each other apart and start screaming obscenities at the "gates of hell" for a moment. If it looks like you're winning the debate they'll ban you for a few days though until they manage to concoct a defense or shut the thread.

They're a funny crowd, they actually seem to hate non-SSPX/Sedevacantist Catholics more than they do Athiests. Other than that those that claim to allow debate usually really means they have a "call the sinner a hell-bound whore" subforum.

[Pyrrho]

That is all I've found, ones which won't let you broach the subject.  Except for WLC's site.  But the rudeness of the reaction as well as the absurdity of what they say just wears you down.  Makes me more sensitive to how our own theists are doing, especially the more reasonable among them.

That's kinda what I expected.  I already wince a little sometime at how we treat some Christians here.  But at the same time the ones who do get shoved hard here also tend to be the most relentlessly deaf to what people here actually think as opposed to what they thought we thought before they arrived.

I think people here are too ready to imagine some Christian who, at first, appears half-way reasonable is actually half-way reasonable, when they should be figuring that someone who believes in fairytale nonsense cannot be very reasonable.  And as you say, the ones who get shoved hard here ask for it.  But, of course, what sort of Christian is likely to join an atheist site?  So obnoxious jerks who do not pay attention to what people actually state and argue dishonestly is what we should expect for the future as well as the present.  If they were good at following arguments and being reasonable, they would not be Christians at all.

[Minimalist]

Agreed.  I've often said that a person has to be amazingly stupid to be a mormon or a JW but really those are only a half-step away from the rest of the shitheads.

[Longhorn]

How insecure in your belief do you have to be to disallow any differing opinions?

The forums you mentioned in the OP sound like fucking totalitarian states

[Randy Carson]

I've read in a couple of threads recently that there are Christian forums in which atheist points of view including attempts to show why atheism is a more logical and likely truthful position than Christianity are allowed.  And I do mean the right to open threads that mirror the kind of extended attempts to prove god or a particular religion correct that are allowed here.  I'd like some links if anyone has them.  

I won't be surprised if there aren't such forums.  Religious forums appear to exist to support not question faith so it's not surprising extended questioning is frowned upon.  

Googling has so far lead me only to forums with rules like this:

CCF does not exist to support or to enable general attacks on the Faith, or non-Catholic proselytizing. Extended non-Catholic lectures, and lists of disputed doctrines too lengthy to reasonably address at one time, are disallowed. Links to non-Catholic sites that include such lectures or lists are similarly disallowed. Moderator discretion will determine whether a given post or site is appropriate.

http://www.catholicforum.com/forums/faq....q_aup_faq_

Questioning Church teachings or disciplines is certainly not a problem, providing it is within a context of attempting to understand our faith.

http://www.catholicforum.com/forums/show...-Teachings

Christian?  Any suggestions?

Jenny-

About two months ago, I called the president of Catholic Answers, Christopher Check, to discuss what was a long-standing ban on Atheist threads. I was connected to his personal assistant's voicemail instead.

HOWEVER, about a week later, she called me back and told me that the ban on atheist threads had been discussed and lifted. I announced that here in a thread that has been locked (and my OP deleted). (I understand why that happened, and I'm okay with it. I'm simply recounting what happened.)

So, you should have no problem at CAF in the Philosophy, Apologetics and Non-Catholic Religions subforums.

One more point, due to problems with spammers from India or somplace like that, new member registrations are only accepted M-F during normal business hours Pacific Time.

See ya there!

[Nope]

What is an atheist thread? Is it a thread started by atheists or just a thread about atheists?