(March 14, 2010 at 6:36 pm)tavarish Wrote: Let's backtrack. It's obvious I misunderstood the original statement.
Your honesty and candor is noted, and rather appreciated. Thank you.
(March 14, 2010 at 6:36 pm)tavarish Wrote: You have three requisites for faith: (1) information, (2) intellectual assent, and (3) trust in the concept. Correct?
I take issue with (3) and just for two reasons: (i) it does not convey the deep commitment I've been describing, (ii) which I distrust because of how you've been characterizing 'trust' so far in the discussion, compelling me to stress the deep commitment element. Maintain that element and you have my acquiescence.
(March 14, 2010 at 6:36 pm)tavarish Wrote: Would you consider evidence of God to be self-evident?
Would you consider the existence of God to be objectively verifiable?
Neither question is relevant to the issue at hand (i.e., what I define faith as), so by answering them I would be derailing the issue. I leave it in your hands to show how they actually are relevant.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)