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Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
(February 8, 2014 at 8:08 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Our brains only needed to evolve in order to survive within our specific ecological niche so they didn't need to understand anything about the universe. The reason the universe is rationally understandable to us is because it was created by rational mind such as ours, though the mind in question is on an infinite scale. It's the reason why we have science and all the rest of it because we can understand and harness the universe around us to our own purposes, in a sense we're micro/small gods ourselves.

You're begging the question: first you need to demonstrate how a universe that's conducive to life and pattern recognition was the "goal" of the universe, and not just the way it randomly shook down.

See, you say that all this is evidence of fine tuning, but that's only true if we begin by assuming that the universe as it is was the "correct" universe, such that without fine tuning it'd be more probably that another, "incorrect" universe would be the result. That's literally the only way you could recognize fine tuning, and yet you haven't even bothered demonstrating that.

Say the universe was different, and we couldn't exist here; how do you intend to show that anyone would even notice?

Quote:You will need a starting point for everything that exists and the starting point can't be something that itself started so you will be looking at something eternal and unlimited, without boundaries or limitations that will provide the context for everything to exist within. The structure and fine tuning implies purposeful creation and therefore intelligence. So you can use deductive reasoning to arrive at this conclusion.

Kalam is lame, and you're lame for using it, but I'll just ask, since you already believe in things happening without a cause, what's your justification for ignoring the possibility that the universe itself just doesn't have one? Dodgy
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was. - by Esquilax - February 9, 2014 at 12:33 am

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