RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 10, 2014 at 9:48 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2014 at 9:53 am by Alex K.)
(February 10, 2014 at 9:40 am)Sword of Christ Wrote:Hey, whatever floats your boat(February 10, 2014 at 9:24 am)Alex K Wrote: Yeah, because all things in my life are trivial if I don't praise your god figure.
It depends what you place value in religion/faith tends to universally point out the folly of basing your life material wealth and physical pleasures alone.
Quote:If it's based on friends, family and doing good for others that's a quality spiritual happiness, though everyone's going to die at some point of course. Not necessarily eventually either so certainly there's a great deal of finality to your happiness here if you believe life ends at the grave.Yes, there is a great deal of finality to my happiness. To yours as well I reckon, because, by the way, believing otherwise doesn't make it so.
Quote:You obviously devalue everything that's actually in our lifes in favour of a (in my opinion) phantasy. I don't.
Quote:Asshat. What a sick outlook on life you have.
Perhaps you're the one with the sick outlook on life? I don't know enough about you to say though.
Quote:No, I wouldn't do that, actually, that's a terrible strawman depicting atheists as some kind of Vulcan caricature.Quote:And depression is just a problem with a lack of faith? You know what I call that: taking advantage of the vulnerable to indoctrinate, nothing more. Really despicable.
Well it is true to some degree if you're going to base your happiness on a purpose free life that ends at death. If you have a really great amazing life of comfort and wealth free from pain and suffering then perhaps you can just about manage it. You can tell anyone who is perhaps in a worse state than yourself who finds solace in their faith in God to fuck off and/or learn some science or whatever.
I wouldn't feed them comforting lies about the afterlife, though. However, I wouldn't talk the dying person next to me out of their faith, if they didn't desire and start that discussion themselves. That would be ghoulish and unnecessarily cruel. But consider the hypothetical scenario that the dying person I'm talking to has had a terrible falling out with their sibling or whatever, and xe says: well, we'll meet in the next life and it will be fixed by god in heaven or something. Then I'll tell that dying person: Hey, I'm an atheist, and I'm not at all convinced that that is going to work out. Don't take that chance and reconcile with your .... now as long as you still have time. See, there's harm in delusions.
Quote: I think that's ultimately the road you take with atheism.Which road again?