RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 11, 2014 at 9:14 pm
(February 2, 2014 at 2:42 am)Esquilax Wrote:(February 2, 2014 at 2:38 am)snowtracks Wrote: couple of comments on that: hypothetically if God exist, we know He wouldn't be created by another 'god' to the 2'nd power, etc since that would means an infinite regression of causes which would solve nothing because that process couldn't ever begin.
So, your position is basically special pleading: "The universe can't exist without a cause, since no human has seen an effect without a cause! I propose a god, that exists without a cause, to solve it!" Fucking hell.
More importantly, you're begging the question anyway, since you haven't even attempted to establish that an infinite regress or uncaused, unconscious universe is impossible. Argument from ignorance.
Quote:theological answer: God is uncaused, independent, and self-explanatory; and is supra-dimensional which is that He exist outside the space-time-energy-matter U. envelope.
Whenever people say something is "self-explanatory," what they usually mean is "I have accepted this explanation." That's not the same thing, nor does simply labeling something as self-explanatory obligates others to accept it as such.
self-explanatory - there exist an internal component about the knowledge of God that each person possess. Scripturally, God says that knowledge is written on each person's heart (spirit).
former atheists have said that this imprint of God kept coming up within them and had to remind themselves that there was not God.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.