RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 12, 2014 at 7:57 am
(This post was last modified: February 12, 2014 at 7:58 am by bennyboy.)
(February 11, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Atheist arguments against Gods existence keep referring to science but most theists aren't trying to argue against science or claim there is any scientific proof of God or that there ever can be such a thing. Science is limited to what you can see/detect and that's it.If you can't see/detect it, then what's left? Believing third-party reports of what someone else claims to have seen/detected. Now, third parties have claimed to see: leprechauns, fairies, demons, unicorns, chakras, auras, spirits, past lives, and God.
Quote:You will need something eternal beyond the universe to cause the universe to exist in the first place if it's finite in itself. That's the bare minimum of what you need.Adding another entity into infinite regress doesn't simplifying anything-- it makes it more complicated by one element. Who made God? You can babble about God being timeless and therefore uncreated, but you could say the same thing about the Big Bang, or about Yin/Yang, or about Krsna.
Quote:he made himself "known" to someone at some point and we have the revelation from that. Differences of opinion on exactly what was revealed to who and when there are different faiths and interpretations.If I tell you that God presented himself directly to me, and that I'm therefore an extra-special snowflake whom you must follow and obey, do you: a) get swept away in a fit of hysteria, and wipe my feet with your hair, and sell your house to support my ministry? b) tell me I'm deluded and need to fuck off before you punch me?
By what criteria are you going to take a tall tale, and decide that instead of being deluded ramblings of some dude who starved himself in the desert for forty days, it's the word of God?
Quote:His point is that since there's no rational reason to believe in God, you must be using non-rational (i.e. emotional) motivations for sustaining your belief. If so, you are using your intellect to cover-up your emotional motivations for including fantastical ideas in your everyday world view.Quote:You don't base your beliefs on anything but your own desires and your faith in them is entirely driven by self-interest.
A bit of a baseless accusation I don't see where you're getting this from.