RE: How can a Christian reject part of the Bible and still call themselves a Christian?
February 12, 2014 at 4:20 pm
(This post was last modified: February 12, 2014 at 4:21 pm by YahwehIsTheWay.)
(February 11, 2014 at 12:01 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: If we override Gods Moral Law then that's a sin or potentially outright evil. You don't need a book to tell what right and wrong is that should be internal within you. The Bible just points out to people who believe otherwise that our morality is sourced from God and isn't just an opinion of our own minds. Moral values exist regardless of our own opinion either way, there is a right and a wrong and a good and a evil.Sweet Jesus, you're almost a New Ager. If the will of Jesus exists in everyone then what do we need religion for? Atheists could simply follow their conscience and wind up doing God's will. Would they go to Heaven according to your New Age Jesus?
Quote:We would probably still have (legal) slavery today without our Christian values we were the ones to abolish it the rest of the world caught up somewhat later.Who's this "we" Kemosabe?
The struggle to preserve slavery in America was fought by some of the most devout Christians in the country. They Confederacy wisely observed that what was regulated in the Old Testament and endorsed by the New Testament couldn't possibly be against the will of Jesus.
If you need pictures to underscore the Bible verses on slavery, here you go:
The Bible on Slavery
Jesus often used slaves in his parables and gave the nod to beating them:
Jesus Wrote:Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
But perhaps you know of some passages that call for the abolition of slavery. Do tell.
Quote:"From approximately 650 until around the 1960s, the Arab slave trade continued in one form or another."...and this proves...?
Quote:It did actually happen so there you go. You can't argue with the results....and all this time I thought it was that heathen deist Lincoln backed by hundreds of thousands of Union soldiers but hey, obviously I was mistaken.
Quote:You just have to apply the principals of human equality and rights...OK, I'm going to stop you right there and ask for chapter and verse where I can find these "rights" and "principals of human equality" because when I read the Bible, all I find is our obligations of obedience to our masters and kings.
Certainly women aren't equal to men in the eyes of Jesus. Neither are slaves equal to their masters. But again, I invite you to cite me chapter and verse.
Quote:It's likely they put that in there because it was something the pagans around them were heavily into and there was a desire to distinguish themselves and remain culturally separate as a distinct people.More bare assertions. I don't speculate why Jesus ordered what he ordered. I simply believe what I'm told to believe and do what I'm told to do. The Bible says it, I believe it and that settles it.
Stop thinking, you phony Christian! Or else be honest and call yourself an unsaved heathen like most of the members of this forum!
Quote:The whole Word of God isn't contained in any visible book it's Christ/the Logos of God and within yourself. The Bible is directs you towards this truth you already know on some level, see it as a guidebook.

The Word of God is a "guidebook". If we already have the Holy Spirit within all of us, that which we know as our conscience, what to we need religion for. The atheist could just as easily do the will of God as a Christian. And if that's true and the Holy Spirit resides in the atheist as well as the Christian, would you suggest that atheists go to Heaven?
You're a Universalist, aren't you?
Quote:"And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him." Mark 12:17Read the context. Jesus is talking about paying taxes.
Quote:You'll notice democracy and secularism didn't really take off in the Islamic countries. So you can see the influence a religion can have on the values of a culture. I'd argue Christianity has founded a pretty damn good one.That's only because Muslim clerics have the kind of power that we True Christians can only dream about. True Christians, yes even the protestant ones, burned intellectuals at the stake. All the Reformation did was split the power of Christianity and offer heathen scientists room to maneuver. It was IN SPITE of Christianity, not because of it that all this heathen science has run amok.
Quote:So the society in which we now live is a more authentically Christian one.America is the only developed nation where Christianity has any kind of a foothold. In all other developed countries, atheism is ascendant. The more these scientists run amok, the more it is at the cost of the power of Christ. In what alternate dimension do you live where the developed world is more authentically Christian?
"You don't need facts when you got Jesus." -Pastor Deacon Fred, Landover Baptist Church
: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to.
And for the lovers of Poe, here's your winking smiley:
: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to.
And for the lovers of Poe, here's your winking smiley:
