(February 13, 2014 at 10:17 pm)Rational AKD Wrote: P1: the concept of God has no contradictions in itself.I assume you mean the traditional religions definition which includes omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent. All three qualities can't exist and still evil exists. The ancient Greeks tackled this issue long ago:
1. Is God willing but not able to stop evil: then he isn't omnipotent
2. Is God able to stop evil but not willing: then he isn't omnibenevolent.
3. Is God both willing and able to stop evil: then whence commeth evil.
3. Is God unable and unwilling to stop evil: then why call him God?
Note the deist definition of God does not include omnipotent, omniscient or omnibenevolent. But that's not what we're talking about, is it?
Quote:P4: the concept of God includes omnipotence.Bare assertion.
Quote:C2: therefore God's existence is not dependent upon an external factor.You can't use a bare assertion to prove another bare assertion.
Quote:P5: if something's existence is not dependent upon an external factor, then it necessarily exists in and of itself (given it is conceivable).Not necessarily.
Is this fallacy-ridden babbling the best you can do?
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
