RE: The modal ontological argument - without modal logic proves atheism
February 14, 2014 at 12:54 pm
(February 14, 2014 at 12:47 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Naturally - ontological arguments are a fucking joke. Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone bothers with them anymore - they're the weakest form of argument by far, IMO.I think that it's much easier to drag out a (pseudo-)philosophical debate because few enough people understand philosophy sufficiently to call a bullshitter's bluff. It is certainly easier than getting god to step out of his metaphysical closet and wave at us.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
