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The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic
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RE: The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic
Rational AKD Wrote:...
Thanks for the elaboration,
I see, that's how it's supposed to be read... so it seems by putting the requirement of actual existence into the concept(*), coherence of the concept gets tied directly to actual existence. That means that if God exists, the concept is coherent, and if it doesn't, it is not? In this case, P1 is not only controversial, but effectively contains an assuption which is equivalent to the conclusion.

(*)Granted, you put actual omnipotence, not actual existence verbatim, so you include in the concept something which encompasses the latter.
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RE: The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic - by Alex K - February 16, 2014 at 4:03 am

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