Atheism destroyed with a question

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If it was constructed to the level of complexity as it is with life in it's utterly complex form as the result of the process and you're saying that happened by chance. Well you're wrong that's all I have to say to you.

Assertion, assertion, assertion.

It's like if you never saw a car before and didn't know how it was made you would say "I bet some kind of a natural random made that car", you're bonkers to say that. The universe is far more complex and perfectly crafted than a car so you're bonkers to say that in much the same way.

We don't recognize design via complexity, genius. We recognize design via contrast with the natural. Complex things do occur in nature, you know; you don't just magically intuit design into complex things, that's begging the question right from the outset by inserting your conclusion "there's a designer," into your premise "complex things denote designers."

Design is recognized by comparing it to things that are naturally occurring, which makes detecting design impossible under your worldview, because to you everything is designed. So when you see that car, you're looking at a designed thing, on a world of designed things, in a universe of designed things, and you yourself are a designed thing. Where's your point of contrast to make any determination at all?

You can go into thew mathematical structures and patterns of the universe, natural forces, living forms and the various mathematical ratios and aspects of the human body and DNA, the Golden Section and all the rest of it.

So as I said earlier, your argument boils down to "pattern recognition therefore causation."? That's an unjustified leap of logic.

But it helps if you accept the universe is the purpose made creation of the almighty God before you get into those details.

So, it helps to see that you're right if you presuppose that you're right?

Hall of shame!

Again you're locked into this mindset where God is wishful not rational thinking because it somehow goes against science and reason. Of course it does no such thing you'll find everything ties together science included.

Assertion, assertion, assertion.

Take it to the debate forum with me, if you're so confident.