(February 18, 2014 at 10:18 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: Assertions of facts science can support with evidence.
What evidence? What fucking evidence? You have presented absolutely none.
(February 18, 2014 at 10:18 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: So if you had never seen a fighter plane before and you saw one flying overhead you wouldn't see it as being something purposefully designed and crafted by an intelligence for a purpose?
Complete strawman, that is not what esquilax said. We recognise design, not by complexity, but by comparing and contrasting with other things that are designed and with nature. So yes, the reason we would recognise a fighter plane is because we compare it to other planes that have been built, we compare it to human design.
(February 18, 2014 at 10:18 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: The natural is the design, the universe is the creation. Not a bare assertion that's whole entire the idea and central crux of argument.
No, that is an assertion. Saying 'the universe is the creation' is the assertion. You have no way to prove your assertion and all the evidence that you put forward can be explained without your god.
(February 18, 2014 at 10:18 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: Exactly, therefore the universe has a purposeful intelligent creator. We're getting somewhere now.
You have completely misunderstood the point. Go back and read it again.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech