Heroin overdose cure: It exists, but how do you get it?

[Creed of Heresy]

Yes, that is exactly what I said! Fucking hell, man. You just skipped over the fact that I was talking about persecution complexes there and not actual treatment. The part where I get to the treatment says in no way that addicts should be denied treatment.

Eh, good point.

Well, first you would have had to admit it was a choice. I have no idea how you managed to get off it without that. Maybe you just replaced it with something else. Who knows?

Well, all things considered, I do have a tendency towards addictive behavior. It's possible I have, thinking about it.

Did someone stick a needle in their arm at gun point? No? Choice. Why is that so offensive to you? I have had plenty of injuries that were my fault. I don't get all fucking uppity and blame it on "life" or "circumstances." It was my own dumb fault.

I'm not getting 'uppity.' I'm simply saying that people make bad decisions under duress, and you'd be surprised how many people on meth or H never knew anything about the dangers. And still don't. It's just making this particular decision can get you addicted to something that can and likely will either kill you or leave you a burnt-out husk of a human being. I'm not saying addicts don't blame themselves for their choices as much as I'm trying to say that the general attitude of "eh, who cares, fuck 'em" that comes from people is something that is extremely pervasive and, frankly, it's disgusting to me.

That's the age old excuse. "I need a drink because my boss is a dick." "I hit you because you drove me to it." "I need to blow another line so I can stay awake to study." It doesn't matter what the fucking excuse is. It's an excuse. For every addict, I'll find you another person who didn't make that choice under very similar circumstances. Still have no idea what the problem is with calling it a choice.

Right, because hitting someone and causing another physical harm is equatable to self-harm. The other two are valid, however. They are excuses, yes. It is true, the reasons given for it are choices, but again, they are choices made under duress, and bullfuckingshit you will by the way; this is starting to smack of you not knowing what the situation on the ground is, here...

I never said to reject them. Of course, I can see this is going to be one of those, "Ermagerd, you're not an enabler, so fuck you." conversations, anyway.

Quite a leap from what I'm saying to what you're insinuating my approach is...

It's funny how you can come from a history of addiction and abuse and still not want to pander to addiction while others want to pretend it just magically happens when you have a tough time of it. Suck it up, kiddos.

I'm not pandering to addiction. I'm not sure where you're getting that idea. Your growing belligerence is unwarranted and, frankly, your words are getting condescending, which is pretty obnoxious. If you're saying you have a history of abuse and addiction, which it seems you are, then saying that you think it doesn't just happen because you have a tough time of it...except it seems it did with you, if I'm reading your statement right. Which makes me wonder what in the name of the deepest layers of hell it is you're trying to say, cuz now I'm utterly baffled. You either are speaking from experience, and are reinforcing the point I'm making that duress has a strong impact on drug abuse, ergo addiction, or you are not, and are stating that because you did not, therefore anyone else who did make that choice was just weak.

Finally, Shell, if you weren't engaged to Tiberius, I'd tell you just what it is that you could suck up. Nothing stokes the contempt engine's flames like someone presuming to have authority of validation over my choices in context to my experiences. You're toeing a very personal line with me. I don't often say this kind of thing but I'll just go on record as saying this: Do not presume to have sufficient experience as to be qualified to tell me to 'suck it up' or not. I'm not joking. I'm not saying this lightly. This is a warning, and in case it wasn't intended, then just forget I am saying this, but don't presume to relate. I'm not going to say my experiences were worse or better than anyone else's, but at the same time, my choices were made in reaction to the way my life had played out, and we'll just leave it at that.