(February 28, 2014 at 8:58 am)Ben Davis Wrote: The question isn't 'have I done any of these things?', the question is 'do I want to take any responsibility for my actions?'. If my answer is 'yes', I have to reject the concept of vicarious redemption.
The question Is "have you done those things" because if you have, then you broke the Law for which the penalty is death. If you are saying you'd rather pay the penalty yourself, then reject the pardon, if you want to live then accept it.
If I was on death row and the president pardoned me, I'd be a fool not to accept it.
Quote:Also, you'd kill someone for gossiping?!?! That indicates a serious social disconnect and a lack of empathy.
When I say "gossip" I'm talking specifically about spreading false rumors about someone, you don't have to be the one that started it you just have to participate, that is considered the same as murder. All it takes is a few "rumors" to destroy a persons influence. After all "the pen is mightier than the sword"
Quote:There are a number of places in the bible where god specifically tells his people that they can take people as slaves/wives/chattel. Your post is just trying to provide 'contexts' in which slavery is okay (e.g. it's not the same slavery as we think of now o'days...).
maybe you missed the part where it states that in ancient Hebrew, the word for servant and slave are same.
Quote:Slavery is never okay in any context and any value-set that tries to excuse or justify it is immoral in that regard.
So whats your stance on interns?