(March 2, 2014 at 1:23 pm)StatCrux Wrote: Its not meaning in the sense of having any purpose. Swimming in a lake may be a pleasant sensation, it doesn't give it meaning. Sensual gratification is not meaning. I don't think you're understanding the full implications of athesim, you can create "your own meaning" but that is not objective meaning, ultimately the atheist has to create false meaning whilst having to admit there is no "real meaning" in life. This seems to be absurd logically.
And you're still begging the question, because the only way you could phrase my lack of objective meaning as a bad thing is if you can A: present me with evidence of some real objective meaning that I'm missing out on due to my current worldview, and B: demonstrate that this objective meaning actually confers a benefit. Without any of that, all this is, is me having to listen to you playing make believe and telling me how great your super special ultra meaning is, as if the product of your imagination should somehow make me jealous.
Just putting the word "premium" on the chocolate box doesn't make the stuff inside taste any better, dude.
Besides, just reducing my position to "sensory experience" is kind of inaccurate: I've got plenty of things going on in my life, creatively, emotionally and intellectually, that are plenty meaningful, and so far your position is just "that's not good enough," without ever explaining why. What measure do you have by which you can judge the meaning I derive from my life lesser than yours, other than that the voice in your head puffs itself up to be so important that you just feel like anyone not listening to it is lesser?
What do you actually have, other than bare assertions that my position is inferior because magic man?
Oh, and also? "Seems to be absurd logically" is an argument from personal incredulity.
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