An atheists guide to reality

[Esquilax]

Yep, you're definitely not getting the point. I don't need to provide evidence of any kind, I'm not trying to prove God exists. What I am saying is that if atheism is true then ultimately there is no meaning in life. We may "think" our lives have meaning and I'm sure most people do, it's whether this belief we have is true or not. So the focus is not on what I believe, but how atheists can logically claim meaning in life other than an imaginary one which they have created. Have you even looked at Rosenbergs book? He is an atheist and he wants atheists to face up to this problem.

And my point is that your problem of objective meaning doesn't exist in a world without a god, because without that objective meaning then the meaning we create is all there is, because we are all there is. There's nothing around to subvert that; you keep saying that the meaning I make for myself is imaginary, but you've made no effort to explain why, or justify that at all. You're just... saying it.

You can imagine why I'd find that less than compelling.

My family is real. My writing is real. My mind is real, the actions I take are real, the people around me are real, and the satisfaction I gain from all of that and more is also real. There's nothing imaginary about any of that, nor is it all diminished just because the universe it takes place in has no externally defined meaning. Why would it be?

That's what I'm saying; you're attempting to cram a problem into my worldview without adequately defining so much as what that problem even is, let alone why I should believe it exists at all. What is it you're actually saying? What's so logically absurd about the notion that my internally imposed meaning is sufficient for a non-nihilistic outlook?