RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
March 3, 2014 at 3:47 am
(March 3, 2014 at 2:03 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(/hold)(March 3, 2014 at 12:30 am)snowtracks Wrote: the yec'ers don't harmonize scripture with astronomy. the bible tell us (yes, atheists are included) the law of physics don't change. astronomical observations of galaxies, starlight have remained constant since the creation event. astronomy looks back into the past and observed objects that completely align their physical condition with their age as defined by distance going all the way to the background radiation some 13 billion years ago.
Looking at the night sky is like looking at the lights on Earth at night. While you can calculate the distances between the lights it's an error to think that that distance means that the objects are a certain age. In other words, distances does not translate into age. We are supposed to have local star clusters that are almost as old as the alleged age of the universe.
A more reasonable statement might be that if you could travel at the speed of light and didn't hit anything it would take you 13 billion+ years to reach the farthest object you saw 13 billion years ago. By then you would have a whole series of new problems.
(hold)(March 3, 2014 at 1:35 am)snowtracks Wrote: jer 33:25
But I, the LORD, make the following promise: I have made a covenant governing the coming of day and night. I have established the fixed laws governing heaven and earth.
The characters in the Bible thought that the stars were tiny points of light that could fall to Earth like they saw meteors do.
probably should have said the greater the object's distance the earlier it's stage of development. all basic elements are the same age, how they are arranged is reflected by distance. the U. is around 4 times larger then currently viewed.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.