(March 6, 2014 at 11:18 am)Tonus Wrote:(March 4, 2014 at 2:40 am)snowtracks Wrote: pride took over: "But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north. 14'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'The question remains-- what do Satan and the demons know about god that they would take such a course?
and it plays out even though he knows what is written as to the ending. pride continues - - - he believes he has an ace up his sleeve and he will rewrite the ending...."pride comes before a fall".
Maybe they are taking a principled stance against a being who would create them with the ability to manifest pride. Maybe god did that on purpose, for his own amusement? Perhaps god really is so insecure that he needs that occasional pat on the back, so he engineers a situation where he gets to play the hero and people are awestruck at how cool he is. It would explain a lot of things. The fall of man and the intricate plan to redeem mankind that could have been made completely unnecessary with three words, for example.
Satan and the angels live with self pride as their guide not the principles of God. How is it you can justify what you said of a being that is omniscient, omnipresent and all powerful, your ideas go against any logical thoughts of a being with those attributes.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.