(March 8, 2014 at 2:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think without the spiritual realm, value of ourselves and our concept of ourselves would be based on something that doesn't verify either of those concepts. At the very least, to find meaning, you have to find value in yourself. I find that we do have intuitive sense of value but when thought from perspective that spiritual doesn't exist, it seems it has no basis and is just fabricated in our minds.
Why does believing in a 'higher power' possibly creating the universe and its inhabitants, cause you to see yourself as having value and purpose? The spiritual ''realm'' is not based on reality, that is what has been 'fabricated' in our minds, to be honest.
