An atheists guide to reality

[Mystic]

I think without the spiritual realm, value of ourselves and our concept of ourselves would be based on something that doesn't verify either of those concepts. At the very least, to find meaning, you have to find value in yourself. I find that we do have intuitive sense of value but when thought from perspective that spiritual doesn't exist, it seems it has no basis and is just fabricated in our minds.

I don't think there are any guarantees regardless of what beliefs you adopt. You make your choices and then you reap your rewards and consequences. That's it, other than a little harumphing and pleading from those who would have it otherwise.

I think for what I keep talking about a sense of God, I can sympathize with Atheists not accepting it, because, God exists independently and previously from us. But when it comes to ourselves, I don't think Atheists can really say we can't be sure about some aspect of our nature. We can know what it means to love, desire, want justice, etc. We know these things because we feel them. We can also sense value and it being a spiritual reality. This is not hocus pocus talk. To me, this is very real, and it seems it's very hard to divorce the two. Also saying we can't know we have value for certain seems counter intuitive, and what seems to be the grand claim that requires evidence, as opposed to making the claim we do know we have value and making conclusions on that.