(March 8, 2014 at 9:43 pm)discipulus Wrote:Tales of extraordinary feats are not evidence that said extraordinary feats really happened... no matter how ancient the text is...(March 8, 2014 at 9:20 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Curious...
It jumps.
Of that particular collection of books, I know enough to dismiss it as mostly fiction, yes.
I mean, really...
- bringing dead people back to life?
- Producing multiples of bread and fish without extra flour nor actual fishing?
- Healing an incurable (at the time) disease?
- Walking on water?
- A person lashed, nailed to a pole and stabbed... somehow survives?
Does this belong in the History or fiction aisle?
Fact is often stranger than fiction.
You know, I marvel at all of you here. I say this because all I hear is show me proof, give me evidence blah blah blah ad nauseaum.....
And then you have accounts of a series of events that could only be done by God and you dismiss it as fiction!!!!!!
Or else, I could present you with a minotaur you could battle in a special labyrinth. If you could vanquish that minotaur, you'll gain riches beyond your wildest dreams!
(March 8, 2014 at 9:43 pm)discipulus Wrote: What do you want man? Seriously, man to man, all kidding aside, why even ask for evidence if you have already determined in your heart you will not accept it?What do I want?
What would constitute evidence of those extraordinary events, if a tale of them will not do and video recording was unavailable?.... nothing, I guess.
But I also guess the same entity would be able to provide humanity with other such extraordinary events throughout time, not just at one particular instance in time...
As it stands, it looks mighty suspicious... almost like the tale was made up around that time.
Which seems more believable?
- Made up story about magical powers.
- Magic exists for real.
(March 8, 2014 at 9:43 pm)discipulus Wrote: Do you think I have not seen this before? People asking for evidence they have already determined a priori cannot exist? Then to later have people speak with me privately about why they really did'nt believe in Christ?
Evidence could exist, if it was real... but it seems it does not exist... I thus see no reason to believe in the seemingly made-up tale.
And I can't understand what makes someone believe it is true.