(March 12, 2014 at 10:34 pm)Aractus Wrote:(March 6, 2014 at 4:55 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Technically you may be right about no area of outer space being completely empty since there are strings and quantum foam and other particles being created there. But for purposes of our discussion we can state that those giant voids are empty because we can't detect any discernible material in them. Eventually hydrogen will form and then it will become detectable. But who knows when that will happen?Incorrect. Our artificial vacuums on Earth, as I mentioned, are more empty than space - and that's because not only do you have the matter/antimatter that pops in and out of existence, but you have photons and other material shooting through what you're claiming is "empty space" as well.
Also, an atom itself is 99.9999999999999% empty, and that we typically regard as being physical matter, which is just very slightly less empty than what you are claiming is completely empty space. You can't have it both ways, by your definition the entire Earth is really just empty space.
That's too funny. If anything there will photons and other material shooting through the artificial vacuums on Earth. Therefore they wouldn't be empty. However, there might be areas of Nothing that are completely empty of detectable matter. We haven't found those areas yet because we lack the capability to do so. But we do have the capability to detect particles in all artificial vacuums on Earth.