(March 23, 2014 at 9:48 pm)Aractus Wrote: Explains that some people can misinterpret what they see - mind you most Elvis sightings were well after the first 40 days of his death. What it doesn't explain is why do we have all the disciples and all the apostles called as witnesses to the event, plus another 500 Christians? Surely you're not going to tell me that of all 11 disciples and however many apostles there were at that time that none of them would be recorded as saying "I never saw the risen Christ"?
Do we now? I'm not aware that we have any witnesses at all. Outside of Christian mythology, do we have any evidence of any of your claims?
Even your own mythology isn't consistent. You claim 500 Christians saw the risen Christ (reference to the Pauline letters). Yet the Book of Acts places the number of Christians at 120.
The Wholly Babble Wrote:Acts 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
And what about the very event they are said to have witnessed? Did Jesus ascend into Heaven on the very day of his resurrection (Luke) or did he terry for 8 days to show himself to Thomas (John) or did he preach for 40 days before being taken up into Heaven (Acts).
The Wholly Babble Wrote:Luke 24:51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
Acts 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
You'd think eye-witnesses to an event where a dead man came back to life and flew up into the sky (presumably to board a space ship that would take him to Heaven, since we don't believe that there are any angels actually living in the clouds anymore) would get these details straight. This is just one of many gaffes in the resurrection fable.
Sorry, I know this is going to shock you, but as skeptics we just don't buy that the fanciful tales of your Wholly Babble are "historical documents" recorded by "reliable eye-witnesses". To believe anything about The Historical Jesus, I'd have to see corroboration outside of Christian mythology. You're just going to have to do better than "The Bible says..."
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