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Animal Slavery
RE: Animal Slavery
(April 2, 2014 at 2:00 pm)jg2014 Wrote: What shared interest do I have with conducting experiments on people who are conscious but mentally disabled from birth? They have no chance of recovery and are also familyless and friendless, so no-one to care for them. We could make a whole load of medical advances. I will never be mentally disabled from birth, yet I care for their welfare none-the-less. I can explain that this might be because I have evolved to value humans. But this is very different from a justification.

I justify giving this person rights because they are conscious, and on this basis animals too must be given rights.
In what way does your giving anything that is conscious rights rest on a rational basis? And how do you know what is and isn't conscious? Is a rat conscious? An octopus? A bacterium? A squid? A tree? Gaia?
Quote:Illicit major is a formal fallacy committed in a categorical syllogism that is invalid because its major term is undistributed in the major premise but distributed in the conclusion.
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Animal Slavery - by John V - March 26, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by No_God - March 26, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 26, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 26, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 26, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 26, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Little Rik - March 27, 2014 at 7:09 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 27, 2014 at 7:17 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Little Rik - March 27, 2014 at 7:27 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 27, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Tonus - March 26, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Minimalist - March 26, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by KUSA - March 26, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 26, 2014 at 1:49 pm
Animal Slavery - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by No_God - March 26, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Lemonvariable72 - March 26, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by paulpablo - March 26, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Tonus - March 26, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 26, 2014 at 1:54 pm
Animal Slavery - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 1:51 pm
Animal Slavery - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Tonus - March 26, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by truthBtold - March 26, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by No_God - March 26, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by sven - March 26, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 27, 2014 at 7:28 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by sven - March 27, 2014 at 8:56 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 26, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Minimalist - March 26, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by sven - March 26, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Tonus - March 26, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by sven - March 26, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Kayenneh - March 26, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Minimalist - March 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Cato - March 26, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Doggey75 - March 26, 2014 at 4:29 pm
Re: RE: Animal Slavery - by KUSA - March 26, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 26, 2014 at 5:09 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 26, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 26, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by KUSA - March 26, 2014 at 6:07 pm
Animal Slavery - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Rahul - March 26, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 11:32 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 27, 2014 at 3:57 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 4:57 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 27, 2014 at 6:20 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 26, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 27, 2014 at 5:16 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 28, 2014 at 2:58 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 28, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Rahul - March 28, 2014 at 7:43 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 28, 2014 at 8:00 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Tonus - March 30, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 30, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by truthBtold - March 30, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Tonus - March 28, 2014 at 7:55 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 28, 2014 at 2:11 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 28, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 28, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - March 30, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 30, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - April 1, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - April 1, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - April 2, 2014 at 7:23 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - April 2, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - April 2, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by James2014 - April 2, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - April 2, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by James2014 - April 2, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - April 2, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by James2014 - April 2, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 28, 2014 at 7:18 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 28, 2014 at 7:57 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by ShaMan - March 28, 2014 at 2:29 pm
Animal Slavery - by Rampant.A.I. - March 28, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 28, 2014 at 6:27 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 28, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 28, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by sven - March 29, 2014 at 9:21 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 29, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by sven - March 29, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 29, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 29, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 29, 2014 at 5:22 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by ShaMan - March 28, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Rahul - March 28, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by LastPoet - March 29, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 29, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by LastPoet - March 29, 2014 at 5:37 pm
Animal Slavery - by Rampant.A.I. - March 29, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 29, 2014 at 5:49 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - March 29, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by LastPoet - March 29, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by sven - March 29, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - March 29, 2014 at 6:04 pm
Animal Slavery - by Rampant.A.I. - April 2, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Fromper - April 2, 2014 at 6:06 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by Angrboda - April 2, 2014 at 9:56 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - April 3, 2014 at 7:34 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by Fromper - April 3, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Animal Slavery - by bennyboy - April 3, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: Animal Slavery - by John V - April 3, 2014 at 7:02 pm

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