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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(April 5, 2014 at 11:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(April 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm)ThomM Wrote: But the big bang - which created a Universe of crowded galaxies that collide with each other - black holes - stars that burn out - and lots of other imperfections - cannot have been the result of the action of YOUR perfect god. A perfect being can ONLY create perfection - and an imperfect world is an example of something it could not create. And you cannot claim the world to be perfect.

OF course - if the god was perfect - it would not be almighty - since it could not create imperfection - so since it can - it must NOT be perfect.
Of course - if the god is ALL KNOWING - past - present and future - then there are things that god cannot do - ie - anything it does not already know - so for example it cannot change its mind. If it cannot change its mind - theon creating a new covenant is not possible.

Example - if the god is all knowing - it knows about everything that will happen and is not able to change anything it already knows - because it would not then be all knowing. But then it would NOT be almighty since it cannot change anything it already knows. And of course - if it CAN do something it did not know it would do - then obviously is was not all knowing as well.

If you were to actually READ the bible - and write down a list of EVERYTHING the god is supposedly able to do - it would be obvious that they could not ALL be possible.
there are multi-purposes for God creating the universe. it's a fallacy that God's sole purpose in creating the universe is to provide a perfectly comfortable environment for life, especially human life.

Of course it's always wrong no matter what one says, because the properties and purpose of god are whatever you, or the inventors of your religion, want them to be. They can even change from day to day. In the old days, the godly properties were decided in councils, and then everybody had to believe it from then on or be murdered. Nowadays its less buerocratic especially among protestants, want your god to have bells and whistles X and Y, there is bound to be a church around which believes it unconditionally, in the worst case you have to drive a bit longer on sunday mornings.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer. - by Alex K - April 6, 2014 at 12:34 am

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