(April 11, 2014 at 11:21 am)Ben Davis Wrote: I've met plenty of women who don't think that way; plenty more who are in to 'visuals' and like sex as much (if not more) than 'men'...
Ditto but that never seems to come up with some feminists who rail against the depiction of beautiful, young, scantily clad women in advertisement, gaming and entertainment. This is where they start to lose me in terms of my sympathy.
As a gamer, this topic does come up. Yes, idealized women are often depicted but so are men. The kinds of male bodies I see, with shoulders thrice the width of their waist and pecs as big as your head, are completely unattainable by the vast majority of males even if they worked out constantly and maintained a strict diet. This doesn't cause "insecurity" for me because I know it's all just fantasy.
It does seem a double-standard for me that the same women who have no problem with Fabio on the cover of a romance novel will become outraged by the lovely ladies in fantasy catering to men. And yes, the "bikini chain mail" outfits are ridiculous but so are the loin-clothed-Conan-like barbarian warriors who seem unconcerned about either protection from the elements or their lack of armor. The most dramatic example I remember is one depiction of a buff warrior, who's top-heavy body structure was supported by a waist so lean there was no room for any intestines, trudging through the freaking snow showing off his amazing topless 2% body-fat form. Hey, it's fantasy.
Men like sex and we like looking at beautiful women. And as one who's bi, the idealized men are easy on the eyes as well. Sorry ladies, but that's never changing and I won't apologize for it.
Now, that said, if feminism is fighting to make women more than JUST sex objects, that's a realistic goal I can support.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
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