RE: "If you're not a Feminist, you're a Sexist"
April 11, 2014 at 3:10 pm
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2014 at 3:39 pm by Coffee Jesus.)
(April 11, 2014 at 12:49 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I think I get what Quantum theorist is saying. Like him, i'm an egalitarian, but I don't want to be associated with the bad feminists or 'feminazi' that make the headlines. I would happily call myself a feminist if the bad part of feminism didn't exist. I've only ever heard feminists campaigning for equal rights of women but never for men. There are double standards all over the place. Like TV adverts. There was this sweet ad where two women eat the sweet and started talking really posh, then they sat down and watched a male strip show. There was no outcry from feminists. But imagine if the genders were reversed. There would be bloody outrage. You're objectifying women! Pigs! Its a clear double standard.
Or how about a more recent coca cola advert. A group of women sitting down in a park. A handsome groundskeeper mowing the lawn. They roll a can of coke down the hill for him, he picks it up, opens it and it sprays all over him. And then with the women watching, he takes his top off and continues amidst the awestruck stares of the women.
Another clear double standard. Imagine if the gender roles had been reversed.
And that's why I don't want to be associated with feminists.
Second wave feminists are more concerned about objectification of women. Third wave feminists are more concerned about slut bashing.
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(April 11, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Quantum Theorist Wrote: For example, custody of children they will likely always side with the mother.Have they said this either explicitly or implicitly?
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(April 11, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Quantum Theorist Wrote: And you conflate equal rights with feminism like someone else did. Egalitarianism is a must better definition that doesn't single out other genders other than women. I don't see Feminists fighting for trans or other genders equality either.Maybe we can say that feminists are the subgroup of egalitarians who believe that egalitarianism entails feminism because women are oppressed.
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Under their strict definition, but I don't consider myself one. I consider myself an Egalitarian, which means equal rights for all genders without bias towards one or the other, which feminism obviously has from just what I've read so far.
I do believe women have been subjected to worse discrimination than men.