RE: "If you're not a Feminist, you're a Sexist"
April 11, 2014 at 4:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2014 at 4:59 pm by MJ the Skeptical.)
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Maybe because I've never known any self-described feminists who've said discrimination against or sexual harassment of men is OK. Neither have I known of any who are dismissive of the problem. As I told you earlier, my wife has said domestic violence against men is not taken as seriously as it should be.
You've completely missed the point and this^ sentence is a red herring. I didn't say feminists thought it was okay to discriminate men (even though I've heard them say misandrist things).
The point was that they do not fight for men's rights or against male oppression. Or any other genders oppression for that matter.
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: And I stand by the assessment that any man who worries about being raped probably has issues with his sexuality.
Then you're being sexist, period.
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: This has less to do with feminism and more to do with the odds. Please note, I said "man" not "boy" or "child".
Men gets raped as often if not more if you include prison. Glad you ignored that so I could bring it up again.
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: As a grown man, I figure my odds of being raped in my lifetime are roughly those of being struck by lightning. With women, even if you disagree with "1 in 4", the odds are unfortunately high enough that for her to exercise precautions is rational.
If men don't need to worry very much than neither do women, especially since they get raped fairly equally according to statistics.
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I'm simply trying to offer possible reasons why the feminists you talked to were dismissive of domestic violence against men, etc. But again, I'd have to know what the conversation was to understand fully.
What? you said the same crap that they do, you called me a feminist then they bring up how we need to focus on female rape since they think it happens more often, just like you said.
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I don't believe I've ever said that. I was offering a possible explanation of what AronRa had said, that there is no "middle ground" depending on your definition.
I already know his explanation, it's an appalling false dichotomy.
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Try to take a few deep breaths here. Relax.
What gives you that impression? it's just hard to express emotion and nuance in text form.
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I don't know that mobilization of our police force has been part of this topic, except when I asked how often sexual violence against men happens and is our justice system handling it well enough.
The point of my comment was to point out that you think women get raped more. So it only follows you want more money and time to go towards female rape, do you not? this all comes back full circle to feminists not giving a shit about other genders oppression or rights since they don't march for any gender other than women. Just hide under the facade of equality while promoting a certain gender...
(April 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Breathe, dude, breathe. Go to your happy place.
I'm good, but thanks for your concern. I still enjoy your replies and posts Paladin.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.