(April 14, 2014 at 1:19 am)tor Wrote: Doug Wilson... [said] "If atheism is true nobody can know anything and therefore jesus is our saviour".
Give me a break.
This sounds like a subset of the Creationist attempt to turn a weakness (in this case, their unreasonable certainty of an a priori conclusion without evidence and against all evidence) into a strength. Being open to new evidence and willing to change one's mind based on new data is ought to be thought of as an intellectual virtue.
Creationism takes a different approach and plays on the human emotional need for certainty. Our brains are wired to fear the unknown and prefer a made-up answer to none at all. It takes the approach of pointing out how science "changes its mind all the time" and draws upon frauds exposed by the method of peer review.
The process of harping on changes made by a self-correcting system is the logical fallacy of "poisoning the well", that is asserting that because science was wrong about the Piltdown Man, how can we ever trust it? Presup seems to use the same deceptive but emotionally soothing tactic of appealing to our need for certainty.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist