(April 14, 2014 at 8:39 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:(April 14, 2014 at 1:19 am)tor Wrote: Doug Wilson... [said] "If atheism is true nobody can know anything and therefore jesus is our saviour".
Give me a break.
This sounds like a subset of the Creationist attempt to turn a weakness (in this case, their unreasonable certainty of an a priori conclusion without evidence and against all evidence) into a strength. Being open to new evidence and willing to change one's mind based on new data is ought to be thought of as an intellectual virtue.
Creationism takes a different approach and plays on the human emotional need for certainty. Our brains are wired to fear the unknown and prefer a made-up answer to none at all. It takes the approach of pointing out how science "changes its mind all the time" and draws upon frauds exposed by the method of peer review.
The process of harping on changes made by a self-correcting system is the logical fallacy of "poisoning the well", that is asserting that because science was wrong about the Piltdown Man, how can we ever trust it? Presup seems to use the same deceptive but emotionally soothing tactic of appealing to our need for certainty.
But doug raises interesting point about fizzing.
If humans are matter in motion how do you know whos thoughts are right and whos thoughts are not right? Doug is fizzing theistically and thinking he is right. And Hitchens is fizzing atheistically and thinks he is right.
How do you know who is right if they are just fizzing and they have no free will to choose what they think?
When people think they are right they have no choice to think they are right regardless if they are actually right.
