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[DeistPaladin]

But doug raises interesting point about fizzing.
If humans are matter in motion how do you know whos thoughts are right and whos thoughts are not right? Doug is fizzing theistically and thinking he is right. And Hitchens is fizzing atheistically and thinks he is right.
How do you know who is right if they are just fizzing and they have no free will to choose what they think?
When people think they are right they have no choice to think they are right regardless if they are actually right.

The topic of free will vs. determinism is an interesting one but not related to theism vs. atheism.

The reason I say this is because there are four possibilities:
1. God exists, who has planned everything, including our thoughts and actions. (Providence or theistic determinism)
2. God does not exist, all our actions and thoughts are the inevitable result of prior events. (atheistic determinism)
3. God exists but not everything is planned. (theistic free will)
4. God does not exist and the future is not set. (atheistic free will)

Of course, the Bible is divided on this issue of determinism vs. free will but far more verses favor determinism. According to most passages of the Bible that speak on this topic, there is an "elect" that has been chosen by Yahweh to be saved. We as free thinkers and skeptics have had our hearts hardened so that their wisdom will seem as folly to us.

Going deterministic does not help their position.