RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
April 15, 2014 at 8:43 am
(April 14, 2014 at 7:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote: an unassailable fact : universe is 13 billion years old.I don't know if it's unassailable, but consensus is that the universe is around 13.7 billion years old. And it may have sprung from the carcass of the previous universe, or may be one of many that sprung from an existing universe, and so on. The point being, we can see that it is here and physicists can speculate on the possibilities for its previous and/or ongoing existence using science and mathematics.
snowtracks Wrote:"whom you claim cannot be observed". that part is correct. for instance, an entity standing right in front of you claiming to be God wouldn't be proof.Right, so you understand the problem: you posit the existence of an entity who isn't standing in front of me, or even anywhere in the universe, and does not --since it cannot-- make any claims or even leave a verifiable trace. And he is mysterious and inscrutable but you know him so well that you can continue to define and redefine his attributes whenever reality threatens to pull back the curtain. But you think the other hypotheses are the poorer ones for explaining the existence of the universe.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould