(April 18, 2014 at 11:32 am)Senshi Wrote:(April 18, 2014 at 4:52 am)fr0d0 Wrote: So what are you saying preexists the creator? I've already said that absolute control is nonsense and why.
Again, how do you know enough to judge? If in a species of ants a malignant disease affected all but 10 and killing the rest saved the species... would you kill all but the 10 to save them? And would your action be just?
No you didn't say why! Now that we got this far and both agree god doesn't have absolute control let's ask the next question. Is god all knowing?
A disease is a bad analogy, because everyone is still affected by the disease 'sin' so the cleansing efforts went to waste. And, finally if god knows the future 1. why would he wait and ask them to repent again and again if he knew they wouldn't 2. why would god not kill off the first few ants who spread the disease before he would have to do something like a great flood?
You didn't answer the question.
Yes I did say why. I said that "absolute" as you're saying it means that God can do the illogical.
That doesn't limit God. God is all powerful. And all knowing.
That's how he knows more than you do and is able to judge where you aren't.
2. In this analogy God let the humans have time to change their ways. It wasn't too late to solve the problem. And again, you're assuming that you know better than a being that know everything.
1. There always has to be the choice. You, knowing that your choice to do bad was self destructive, choose not to change. Justice still has to be served.
