(April 19, 2014 at 10:29 am)whateverist Wrote: I wouldn't put it that way (bolded). It doesn't go beyond the natural, just beyond the personal. Whatever it is that allows trillions of cells to come together and submerge their life force and activity into what gives rise to one being is pretty remarkable. So much goes on below the surface to give rise to our sense of being.
I don't find I need to imagine another mind or self, separate from me to feel my experienced enhanced. It is enough for me that whatever gives rise to me is capable of so much. Being open to what that is and can become keeps me pretty enthused, and free from muggledom.
It isn't clear to me why you need to imagine that the mystery which creates and supports you also creates and supports the entire universe. I'm content to let the mystery be as that song Chas shared put it. But then again I don't entirely understand why I need what I need either.
Ah I see (paragraph 1). Yeah I think if it supports me it must also be involved in the whole of existence. We can only know our own experience but I think it less self centred/ all encompassing to take in everything. If your understanding were to become widespread, for example would the danger be self preservation?
Perhaps my understanding doesn't go beyond the personal. What I'm doing is interpreting reality though this Christianity filter to change my outlook. It's me interpreter to explain reality as you find you need to interpret it. I think I'd be thinking the same way as you if I hadn't confronted Christianity. I think all systems can have merit. Wanting always to have my own thoughts I greatly admire a unique perspective.
