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First Cause Argument
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RE: First Cause Argument
(April 21, 2014 at 11:03 am)super spidey man Wrote: The First Cause Argument
If there is no first cause, then the universe is like a great chain with many links; each link is held up by the link above it, but the whole chain is held up by nothing.

Downbeatplumb already covered the fact that "I don't know" is a valid answer; certainly more valid than making things up. That being said, lets give this a go:

What created the universe? God.

What created god? God doesn't have a cause. He's eternal.

How do you know God is eternal? How do you know the universe isn't?


If you're fine believing in eternal things, you have no reason to state that the universe couldn't be eternal. In order for you to be able to insert God into the first cause argument, you need to make three assumptions:
1) God exists
2) God can create universes
3) God is eternal

If you don't assume those three things, then you can't prove God created the universe, and if you're making assumptions, then this isn't proving God. Also, I can assume any particular thing I want, if I make those three assumptions, and suddenly I've "proven" that thing.
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First Cause Argument - by super spidey man - April 21, 2014 at 11:03 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 21, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Tonus - April 21, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Paraselene - April 21, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by downbeatplumb - April 21, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Jackalope - April 21, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by pocaracas - April 21, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Jackalope - April 21, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Minimalist - April 21, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by JesusHChrist - April 21, 2014 at 12:18 pm
First Cause Argument - by Rampant.A.I. - April 21, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by RobbyPants - April 21, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by MindForgedManacle - April 22, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 23, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by MindForgedManacle - April 23, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 23, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 23, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 24, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 24, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 24, 2014 at 7:21 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Cato - April 23, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Simon Moon - April 23, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Cato - April 23, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 23, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Godlesspanther - April 23, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 24, 2014 at 6:16 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Ryantology - April 24, 2014 at 7:01 am

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