(April 22, 2014 at 2:06 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(April 21, 2014 at 7:20 pm)Metalogos Wrote: If we can all agree that everything in the known universe does indeed have a beginning and an end, then we can rule out the idea that things can go on existing ad infinitum and also that the universe could have existed forever, can we not? If we can, then positing some prime mover or creator being for the origin of the universe does not seem to me to be out of the question. Conversely, and nobody seems to want to tackle this, is the question of what would be a plausible alternative explanation for the origin of the universe without an agent that brings it into existence and sets it all into motion. Please, dear fellow thinkers, bring forth your best fruits and lay them on the table for us all to examine openly.
Does anything ever really end or does it merely evolve into something else?
When the Earth was formed did it have dirt on it at that time?
No..it didnt have Christians yet. . Ur right!!!