RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
April 23, 2014 at 9:48 pm
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2014 at 9:49 pm by MJ the Skeptical.)
Hey, never talked to you before but I like your opinions. Thought I'd go through them.
I know this similar argument that I like to use when theists will claim their god is not detectable or can not be scientifically tested for, transcendent etc.
There are 3 gods in this example just for the sake of argument.
1) A god who manifests in reality.
2) A god who doesn't manifest in reality.
3) A god who doesn't exist.
Then I'd ask how to differentiate between #2 and #3 if god can not be detected somehow or transcends reality etc.
That's sort of how it worked, and it started with the Sun.
But you see...special revelation to uneducated people is how he had to do it. Stupid atheist xD
Making a perfect universe and many perfect/intelligent species with a snap of his fingers would ruin your free will to do the evil he created. ;P
(April 23, 2014 at 9:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: I'd take it further and argue that there is no discernible difference between a transcendent incorporeal entity, and that entity which exists only in the minds of those who believe in said entity.
I know this similar argument that I like to use when theists will claim their god is not detectable or can not be scientifically tested for, transcendent etc.
There are 3 gods in this example just for the sake of argument.
1) A god who manifests in reality.
2) A god who doesn't manifest in reality.
3) A god who doesn't exist.
Then I'd ask how to differentiate between #2 and #3 if god can not be detected somehow or transcends reality etc.
(April 23, 2014 at 9:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: God could be simply a model by which adherents have interpreted the observable phenomena of the observable universe and that mechanism to which they attribute previously inexplicable phenomena.
That's sort of how it worked, and it started with the Sun.
(April 23, 2014 at 9:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: The trouble arises when you rely entirely on what a bunch of primitive goat-herders came up with during a "hey, man, what if:" session, and attempt to overlay literal truths about the intent of said entity onto human history.
But you see...special revelation to uneducated people is how he had to do it. Stupid atheist xD
(April 23, 2014 at 9:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Really, the earth is only 6,000 years old? That's all your omnipotent deity has got?
Making a perfect universe and many perfect/intelligent species with a snap of his fingers would ruin your free will to do the evil he created. ;P
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.