RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
April 29, 2014 at 9:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2014 at 9:58 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(April 29, 2014 at 9:04 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Oh, gosh, this question again.
Why do I not believe in your god?
It is unreasonable to believe in that which there is no evidence to support its existence.
What would it take for me to believe in your god?
Verifiable evidence of the god's existence and the god's divinity.
I find it interesting that theists often throw the term "God" around with no qualifiers, as if their ambiguous "God concept" is somehow covered under any rational proof such a concept could be an entity, and then have carte blanche to swap whatever deity they personally believe, with very specific qualities.
These are almost invariably the people who present an ontological argument, and are absolutely incredulous that "random chance created the universe from nothing," yet are completely oblivious to the fact that they have about a 1/1000 chance of having the right version of the right deity from the right culture of correctly correlating <Goddidit> and <This God, right here>.
Which God? The Christian God? Who told you about that God? Are you aware how many others exist? Do you care? No? Why not? Well, what do you mean 'God's the only real God,' do you know how many times that claim has been made?"
(April 29, 2014 at 9:53 pm)te1148 Wrote:(April 29, 2014 at 9:47 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Oh, so this is how the conversation's going to go: everything's just an opinion, everyone has faith because they can't know stuff certainly, every view is as equal as every other view...
Oh, except for god, because that's what the person advocating for solipsism believes in.
Change the record, dude.
I certainly don't think that every view is created equal. I think I'm right. You think you're right. But clearly one of us is wrong. One thing I want to establish is that we all believe certain things by faith or without testable evidence. So saying that you only believe in what can be scientifically tested is a little disingenuous.
You can believe the sky is purple all day long, that doesn't make it objectively true. What makes your beliefs more accurate than the beliefs of others?
If other people disagree with your beliefs, can you show why you're right and they're wrong, external to your beliefs?
