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What would it take for you to believe in God?
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
(April 29, 2014 at 10:56 pm)te1148 Wrote: I depend on faith, because I think faith is superior to reason. Reason rests in what my own mental faculties can comprehend. Also, I see a huge problem with what "facts". Facts are always interpreted and therefore subject to error. Also, I think my presuppositions are tested and proven true nearly every day. One of my presuppositions is that I am really sinful and don't deserve any good whatsoever. I believe that my sin has earned me eternal punishment in Hell, but by faith in Jesus, God gives me grace and shows me favor, instead of the punishment I deserve. I see that presupposition proven true every day.

I don't think there are any ways to prove 100% that God exists. God never seeks to prove that He exists. He just exists. Reason, intellect, and evidences are not enough.

So basically, what you experience in the real world contradicts what your book tells you, and your solution is to say: "I can't trust what I experience because reasoning and facts are wrong and subject to error."

Can't you see how intellectually backwards this is? When you start with the fact that your presupposition cannot be wrong, you are invalidating your faculties of reasoning. Why trust anything you experience? Why is it curiously only the things that contradict your god claim that are untrustworthy?

Personally, I abhor any dogma that preaches that man is broken and worthless. What a shitty thing to teach people, to teach children. It's disgusting. I don't need a god to be a good person. I treat people well, give back to my community, love my family, and do good by others, all without your god. How's that possible?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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What would it take for you to believe in God? - by te1148 - April 29, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: What would it take for you to believe in God? - by SteelCurtain - April 29, 2014 at 11:10 pm

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